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Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by cardboard, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. Studds

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    Just finished watching the debates on Fox. I realized what really bugged me about Perry, I'd heard it in the past but had forgotten about it. Why in the hell are we paying the college tuition for illegals or their children ? When he said that people that didn't think it was right were "Heartless" I wanted to throw a f===in' brick through my TV. I still believe that we need to take care of our own before we try to help everybody else in the world.
    Before the debate tonight I was about 50/50 for Perry. Now I'm leaning a whole lot more on the side of Romney, with Newt a close 2nd. Perry was not a very good debater tonight and seemed very stiff.

    Just my opinion---------
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    Missed that, wished I had seen it. :(
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    This is another good point... Just another Democratic thing to do.. Another thing if you watched the first debate when he was challenged about border control, he laughed at others ideas saying that the borders can be better patrolled or better measures can be taken to secure our borders.. He is just a Democrat in Disguise....:rant:
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    That is a crock of Bull, did you not read CB's post above about how Perry has tried to get Federal help and they ignore it. :banghead:
    Maybe we need the outspoken Sara back in there. :D
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    Perry is not the answer dude........He is a Democrat. plain and simple....
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    Ask the Texans here if they think Perry is a Democrat, dude. Between the two front runners I still think Perry is a better choice than Rommy. :D
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    and that is all it is...your opinion....:rolleyes:
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    No not just my opinion but many across this country. I'm watching the debate now and I think so far that Perry is doing pretty well against Rommy. Have not come to the illegal part yet but will let you know how I feel about how it went. :rolleyes::D

    I think Cain is doing pretty well also. Hmmm, bet him and Perry would make a good team, with Perry as Pres. :D

    Newt is pretty good to. :)

    But one thing they all have in common is they don't agree with your guy OB.
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    Yep, You know it all dude!!:roflmao::rolleyes: Perry looks like a Puss.....
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    Look in the mirror dude, Rommy is a flip flop: :rolleyes::p
    I think the guy who comes across as very intelligent is Cain. :D
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    Newt is the answer but he can't get elected, too bad.
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    You know fellas, the biggest accomplishment Obooma has done since he is in office is turn Americans against one another. "Divide and conquer". He started by critizing and making fun of Americans who didn't agree with him. When have you heard other Presidents do that? Then, Pelosi and the the other left wingers jumped on the band wagon critizing, making fun of and even accusing others of racism and terrorism. Now in our strong desire to replace the a-hole he has Repubs fighting one another. Even during the hippie years I have never seen division in our country like I am seeing now. No candidate is going to solve the illegal problem because that candidate will lose the hispanic vote. That is why no past president has solved it. Clinton pushed out the high risk mortgages in the early 90's in order to get and keep the black and hispanic vote (which is what caused Obooma doing the bank bailout. And keep in mind, Bush Jr didn't stop that either 'cause he didn't want to piss off the blacks/hispanic either). The anger in the streets is aweful. We need a pres who will bring back our patriotism first. Get Americans thinking positive adn pissed off at one enemy then, like in the past, we will rally and git er done. All those repubs running for president need to get their fn egos in check and decide together which one of them has the best chance to win, the others back-off and get behind that person and put all their money, supporters and effort behind that person and git er done! I'm just saying bros.
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    If I was in a Presidental debate, I would just lean over and whak one of the people that said something against me.

    Folks git to go to college without tution when they are illegal because were a rich country.
    There is a bill called he Dream act that is just one of the bills.
    Folks that are illegals git to go to the doctors and schools for free. They git to draw Social security and they've never paid into it.
    Alabama passed a law against Illegals attending their schools because they are breakin the system there. They are breakin the hospitals and all
    The white house said Alabama couldn't enforce it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/us/04immig.html


    Get Involved Today | Obama for America | 2012


    snopes.com: DREAM Act

    Arizona tried to pass a immigration law there and look what happened.

    But All this is Perry's fault huh Johnny Boy..

    I got hit by a dude driving somebody else car. The dude sued me.
    He was going to college here for free studying to be a lawyer.
    I went threw 3 yrs of bull , from a Nigerian going to college here for free and the U.S. goverment was paying him.

    When we was at war with Vietnam. I had a buddy that worked for Hanna Steel. The U.S. goverment paid Hanna to hire a Vietnameese and teach him the trade.
    The vietnameese got free housing, free car every 2 yrs , free money and a free Job. He got all this for 10 yrs.

    Whey can't my son git a start in life like this.

    But Oh yea yer right Johnny. This is Perry's fault.


    Barack Obama: Driver's licenses for illegal immigrants? - YouTube
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    Because of the organizations across the U.S and the Feds
    A state government has problems passing laws and enforcing them
    Look at Arizona and Alabama who has passed laws to stop illegals immigrants
    Know 2 Christian boys who build race cars that come from Pakistan that said the U.S had already let the Taliban in the U.S
    They are living among us and if the time and word comes they will arise to the call
    We sit back and worry about people rights and if we hurt their rights
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    You need to remember this is all just talk Right now fatboy 128 is Right , they all need to pull together & see who can pull this off & the news has already decided who you will have to vote for Perry or Romy the rest are there for the dog & pony show , it's to bad we can't take something from each of them & put it into one
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    Fatboy128 and Cardboard are both right. The hard part is going to get those followers of OB to see the light.
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    Right now the followers of OB are in serious decline. BUT, if the rest of us don't come together and get the right candidate to oppose him, HE WILL WIN. THAT we be our fault for letting his socialist group to DIVIDE and CONQUER us! Every debater last night had great ideas. They ought to back either Perry or Romney and throw all their support behind the guy. THEN, the guy gets every single one of these debaters onto his cabinet to enforce their ideas. But again, if we keeping fighting amongst ourselves, we are in deep cow pies.
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    I would have to agree with FatBoy128 that Newt is the best candidate up there due to his experience and his accomplishments during his tenure as the speaker of the house. I like Newt and would be willing to give him my vote.

    It is so early in the process and as Cowboy said, it is all talk as of now. However, just based off of what I saw last night, this will come down probably between Romney and Perry. Being from Minnesota, yes at first I was big on Bachman but watching her now for two debates, there is no way she is ready for that office...

    I have been arguing this point with a friend of mine for a long time now, we need a completely new approach to how our government governs. Is running it like a business the way to go??? I think that it takes people like Perot and Kaine to do things like that. And believe it or not, like it or not, Romney's pedigree is way better that Perry. I am convinced that it will take a non-politician to fix the financial downfall of our country. JMO So who is it that I think will come out this as the nominee? I have think that it is going to be Romney and Newt as Vice President. My vote goes to whoever the Republican candidates are. :D
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    Yea, put all of our support behind Perry, oh crud JB is going start throwing things at me:roflmao:.
    I think the guy who could be an excellent secretary of state is Cain.

    And Rommy can be the financial guy. :roflmao:
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    It's going to be a interesting race. I would hate to be in a Debate where everybody throws rocks at you cause they are better.
    I know canidates are going to make some mistakes, but I hope they learn from the mistake and correct things.
    And no one person is gonna change things. He has the whole DEmocrats and repblicans to deal with then all the organizations in the the United States like the Sierra club, and the labor unions and other organizations.
    But I will say clean air shouldn't be over jobs.

    And we need to quit giving other countries Money that we don't have.
    How can we save them when we can't save ourselves.
    We have give countries like Hati money for a couple years now.
    Let them git on their own feet and take care of themsleves. We gonna take care of them from now own.
    Same thing for other countries.
    We can't save the world. We got to start lookin after our own.

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