Parts for Stage 1 upgrade

I still wish I knew what size jets came in the kit for a 2001 883 however. I can't see paying extra for a jet that I may already have installed to begin with. That just wouldn't make sense.

I do like the idea of a better spring, and a better needle however. Hell, I may even upgrade to the mixture screw that is knurled as well. It seems more user friendly for sure.

It's just the "mystery" jets part that I still find quite irritating. I like to know what I'm buying before I buy it. Most people do I suspect.

"Give me your money and I'll surprise you with what you get," just doesn't quite cut it with me. Especially if I end up getting what I already have to begin with, and paid yet again for something I didn't even need.

Take note sales department. Many "intelligent" people think the same way I do. You are possibly "losing" money. People want to know what they are buying before they hand over their hard earned money. Especially these days. I don't think that is unreasonable.

Maybe people may take the info and just install jets on their own if they know that's what in your kit. BUT...if your kit is as good as you believe, then it shouldn't matter. You are offering a better spring and a better needle, and a better mixture screw as well at a better price than buying all those pieces separately. You would still win.

The fact is, if people just want to re-jet...there is plenty of info on the web to tell them what to buy, and skip your kit completely. If you want to sell your kit...you have to be honest instead of paranoid. Explain (in detail) what you get and why it's better.

I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I'm just telling you like it is. Secrecy is costing you more money than the truth did...even if you don't realize it.

I am VERY interested in your kit. But I'm not going to buy it. Why? Because I don't know what I'm buying. It's that simple. I'm just being brutally honest here.

I "do" understand your stance. And yes, I understand that you sent me a PM explaining your point of view as far as sales goes. I'm not trying to twist your arm either Bro.

My main point is that I don't want to buy jets that I may already have to begin with. That's just not practical.

That does not mean that I'm not interested in the rest of the components in the kit. Please don't confuse the two. In fact, your needle and spring is what keeps me the most interested. But... not at the expense of paying again for jets I may already have.

If you tell me that your kit for an '01 883 does "not" contain a #42 and a #160 that I already have installed stock, then OK. That would be good enough. If it does...then I'm wasting money. Right?

Shop Manual and the Parts Catalog are 2 genuine HD tools to buy...and worth every penny. Parts Catalog has all the numbers and diagrams with order of assembly for those of us that can't read Then make your own jet kit. N65C needle and a main jet,possibly a $ .10 brass washer from a harware store ,but prolly won't need it.

You can also buy the parts manual, which not only lists the numbers, but has diagrams to show you where they go.

Yep. I may have to find the parts manual as well. It would be good to have. Sadly though, even some of the part numbers I've looked for in the past are really tough to find now sometimes.

Fair enough.