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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by JohnnyBiker, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. Smarty

    Smarty New Member

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    The fueling oil pump fits right in. No alterations needed. Yes it is better than a spring replacement. Fueling makes a great oil pump. Google it.
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    Are you having oil pressure problems JB?? Ya know the saying...if it ain't broke....fix it until it is:roflmao:
    JMHO but why replace a perfectly good working oil pump just because there is a better one out there....:confused:
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree leave the pump alone unless you have problems.

    Do what I said and just leave cams alone cyl pistons heads and bigger carb.

    If you don't get what you want from your current cams the top end will be done then mess w cams if you feel it's needed later

    Least cost solution and it resolves engine capacity needs
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  5. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Some of the reason as to why I am thinking about a new OIL pump :) is because of the posts that I have read about not getting enough pressure along with a sense of security (maybe a false sense) with a new pump.

    BTW, Fueling??? Is that FuelMoto??????
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    no it's a different company

    Is it showing no pressure
    when they get warm pressure
    drops as oil thins at idle down 10 to 15 psi
    then when throttle gets going it moves up to 30 ish

    if it's doing that it's fine leave it alone
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    I think that I need to leave it alone then because that is what it is doing..:cool: Thank You....
  8. Smarty

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    Johnny, anytime you put money into a Harley engine and increase hp/tq, you also increase heat. It is an air cooled engine. Most older Harley's when warm idle down to 0 oil pressure at idle. With a fueling oil pump it not only gets idle oil pressure up, but it flows much more oil at all rpms. More oil, less heat, less heat, parts last longer. I don't care what anyone says, you build that engine, you buy the insurance and put a better oil pump in that engine. That is the weak link in that twin cam setup. Anybody that builds engines will tell you that. Motorcycles or hotrods, bigger engines, more oil flow!
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    i live in southhhhh florida in the summer its 97 deg 100 percent hum. my high compression 95 . ran 255 all summer long 0n 95 in bumper to bumper traffic with a stock pump no problem i run 6o weight in the summer . and 50 in the winter our winter is 67 if were lucky and we might get 1 week of 30 deg if we are lucky and our candy ass wont ride that cold any way . pressure aint crap its good volume on a harley . on touring bike we got nice oil jets that squirt oil to the bottom of the piston dont forget ! stock pump worked just fine for me for years and many hours on the dyno in our heat never had an over heat problem . had my t- max alarm set at 275 f.
  10. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    hmm my 116 and 124 both survived (and still survive) 60,000 miles of FL roads, and my wrist with the stock pump and stock plate.

    If you are going drag racing yeah by all means dump an SNS case, welded and trued flywheels, timken bearing, forged or hyper pistons, twin oil coolers, etc.

    But a basic 95 with 37B cams and 10 to 1 compression is
    JMO a good street engine not a hot rod... I wouldn't waste a grand on an
    oil plate and pump from fueling...
  11. JohnnyBiker

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    Alright guys put the johnsons away. I get the point, but I am going to have to side with BP and HRK on this one. I am not going to blow a g on a pump if I really don't need to.

    Smarty, if its pressure that you are concerned with, then it would be better to go with that Basiley's LMR002 spring?? Right??
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  13. baggerpaul

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    Problem I have with bumping pressure up with that spring is the return side of the pump and plate .and also the sumping problem you end up with some times .next up is look how long we have to wait on lifters to bleed off when we adjust push rods as well some times it up to 30 min them lifter oil holes are very small so the pressure incresse is quite high in the cam chest area. I don't like messing around with oil pressure check valves .jmo
  14. hotroadking

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    I can't put it back once its out!

    Fueling pump and plate are very nice very well made parts
    if you feel you need/want it then why not.

    heck you don't have 500 miles on that bike
    yet, whata you waiting on tear off the heads
    and go to work you have 6 more months till riding season!
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    I have about 650 miles on it already.... part of reason I haven't tore it apart yet is because I am still riding. :D
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    Nice to see yer out ridin dude and gettin more familiar with yer bike.
    Baggers Rocks man. They got a great ride too.
    Your gonna see the light dude probably sooner than some new riders.
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    It took me two years. Hey, I still love my Sportster. I am riding it more than the bagger at the moment. :D
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    I think he'd just like to see the sun on a regular basis LOL
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    I think he's seeing more sun then we
    Are here
  20. Smarty

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    I get it now. Use xyz oil, it will be fine, whatever's cheap, right? Listen to whomever you want. The oil pump on the older bikes have always been lacking in sufficient low rpm output. If you are building a bigger motor, more h/p, tq, equals more heat. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out the more upgrades you do along the way, the less problems you will have in the future. You don't have to change lifters every 20 thousand miles either, but it's good insurance too. Many of these things other people leave alone and don't have problems as stated above. But I am not one of these. I do it right the first time. I learned this lesson years ago. None of these guys on here mention lifter failure, it happens all the time. Same with cam bearing failure also. Remember to put the bearings in with sereal numbers facing out, haven't seen that posted either. Lots of stuff to learn Johnny, do your homework and do it right the first time. JMO

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