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Discussion in 'EFI Maps and Tuners' started by cardboard, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. Roadster guy

    Roadster guy Well-Known Member

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    One thing BP mentions a few times is after it learns the setup, you need to reload it with the modified cells it has just learned. Have you tried to reload it with the learned values? And make sure you rename it and write it down somewhere so if there is a difference you know which one it is. Sounds like the memory for fuel maps in this thing is almost bottomless. Good luck!
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    Had them to load the map at Fuelmoto.

    I can take the TM out and go install the software again.
    Thing is I have already loaded another map and it still does it.
    Only one way to load it.
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    Here is auto tune with the lambda sensors


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    Had them to load the map at Fuelmoto.

    I can take the TM out and go install the software again.
    Thing is I have already loaded another map and it still does it.
    Only one way to load it.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    No I haven't
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    Well tben following the instructions in this video is exactly what you need to do .and save the original tune as well .thats how I do it and how I v tune also .and run my hp tunners software for the ls3 set up. Also and tune the sert also. They all are done this way and the thunder max is similar just a new software lay out for you to learn how to navigate
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    Thunder-Max to me has a great WB 02 sensor and tunes really good , if you get a good starting map and turn the learning up to 10% and run auto tune and auto map.
    Thunder-Heart has new software out as you know.
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    Ya if you download the perf version dyno and shope owner stuff you can even bump it up to 20 % correction value but you better have 0 and I mean 0 intake or exhaust leaks .or the map goes way rich .you can watch it correct so fast on tje dyno its amazing .it really cuts down on ride time and reloading the map for the customer .you can get the fuel section of the map done I an hour with t max on a dyno . And the timing done in couple. If you do timing vs tp I almost never have to mess with the low end of the timing .I like it it does work well.
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    Think for now I will put the Power Vision back on tomorrow morning.
    And try the basic way int the video.
    Whats mainly happening is it seems to stumble and not want to fire correctly and run on like one cylinder.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    But my point is I don't need to because it works perfect. Why do you always have to change things.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    My point is.
    What do you want me to DO.
    Sit in the house. Ride the bike, shoot the gun.
    Stay drunk.

    I have not one thing to do but watch the dogs.
    I have put over 100,ooo on 2 bikes. and I want to know things.
    Like I said. had a buddy have the TM to fail on him 2 times in a month.
    I want a backup system. And NO i do not want a harley tuner.
    Already had one and nobody here could dyno it worth a dang.
    My stock ECm is not setup for the 107 motor.
    I am contemp with nothing. I want to know more.
    And no I am not going back to work.
    My wife retired me.
    Said I'm threw

    One way or another I will learn the Power Vision. Or take it and have it done later on.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow, sounds like your really bored. You really need a hobby, not tearing your bike apart. My tuner works perfect don't need a backup and ain't messing with it. When I want to go for a ride I get on it and go. My Springers are carbed bikes and like em just the way they are.
    Thought you was working on boats?
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Quit that 2 yrs ago.

    Too hard carrying everything up and down hills all the time.
    And walking ladders under boats that are in boat lifts.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe you should go help Chuck working on other peoples bikes.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Chuck is 35 miles south of me. And he works when he wants to work, and eats when he wants to eat. And takes his naps.
    I will be in his way when he is working.
    Got things I need to do. I cut grass in 4 yards. And take care of 2 labs.
    Got the OL a 19 month old starter hunting dog 4 months ago.
    She has always wanted a yellow lab. I got her one.
    Here he is at 19 months old. The lady at the kennel only gave him 1 cup of food a day.
    He was super skinny . I have got some weight on him in 4 months.
    His Grand dad broke master hunter records at 17 months old.
    His grand dad was chocolate, and his dad was chocolate.
    His mom was yellow.
    He loves to run and jump. He is very, very fast.
    He can jump over 3 strands of bobbed wire standing flat footed.
    The OL loves him.
    He is a Alpha Male from Hell.
    He is Evil too.

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    When you street tune to get more cells filed you have to ride in different gears at different rpm until the ECM gets enough data per cell to make a valid change

    If it shows cells as you work them on the monitor then you just have to hit the cells by using throttle position rpm and gears.

    Thing is there are cells you will never use so riding it like you normally ride will fill the cells you need

    Don't try and tune every cell
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    That's a good looking dog. Yellow labs is my favorite, sister has one and just loves him. Yea, you got a lot of things to keep you busy.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Here is his Grand Dad

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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. The video shows I could only fill a small amount.
    And had to write it and clear it.
    don't know if you watched the video or not.
    Guess I can come back and do it again and write over what I put in the same number as before. Don't know if it will over write it or what.

    Gonna put the PV back on in the mooring.
    Wrote down on how to do it.
    Now if I can actually do it.

    Ain't had much sleep. Got up at 4:00 am.
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    If the base map is way off it will be harder.
    Timing isn't tuned just the ve ratios that set fuel

    If you have the wrong cam timing it makes it difficult to
    Get it exact off a DynoDyno

    Finding a map with similar cam grinds is a key and makes it easier
    I would call Jamie at fuel moto

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