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Ring problem?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by Tommyc, Nov 28, 2011.

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  1. Tommyc

    Tommyc Active Member

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    Is there any gasket sealer i u can use on the exhaust pipe copper gaskets?
    Tommyc, Nov 29, 2011
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    ultra copper silicone permatex
    baggerpaul, Nov 29, 2011
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  4. Tommyc

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    That sounds expensive. Thanks BP!
    Tommyc, Nov 29, 2011
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    Na
    baggerpaul, Nov 29, 2011
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  6. Tommyc

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    I'll try it this weekend. I can deal with some white smoke puffs out the pipes but I cant deal with oil dripping out the exhaust ports onto my new chrome pipes ! aahhhhh! $300 for STD pipes and they getting oil stained! WTF?
    Tommyc, Nov 29, 2011
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  7. Tommyc

    Tommyc Active Member

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    I have teflon valve seals installed. Been verified.
    Tommyc, Nov 30, 2011
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    good then ride it and see if the rings will seat. it is dino oil correct ? not snythetic ?
    baggerpaul, Nov 30, 2011
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  9. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I always break in with peanut oil
    smells better, easier to clean off pipes

    problem is if you pass a zoo or a
    crew of drunk baseball fans you get followed
    hotroadking, Nov 30, 2011
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  10. baggerpaul

    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    you are a smart ass ! Hr lol
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    well.... yeah.... LOL
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  12. Tommyc

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    Yes, Dino oil.
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    i was going to ask...high detergent oil ? what is the best break in oil.
    bmw (car) recommends wot in 3rd gear to 60 mph, let off to 30mph...
    repeat 5 or 6 times to seat new rings. really wanted to know what
    hd recommends. i hear rings will not seat with synth oil.
    school me...
    eieio4tn, Nov 30, 2011
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  14. Tommyc

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    I'm sure it depends upon the HD motor type. Mine is a shovelhead. Supposed to be take it easy for 50 miles, don't over rev or lug the motor b/c air cooled engines get hotter quicker than water cooled (car) engines. After first 50 miles ride bike as normal. I'm at about 60 miles and getting some smoke and oil leaking. I will try more miles to seat rings but I think something is not right. The ring gaps were slightly larger than should have been.
    Tommyc, Nov 30, 2011
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    i am a shovel too. i have been lucky so far...
    push ring into cylinder with piston and dead on gaps, no xtra work.
    will see how well this shovel does after honing.
    eieio4tn, Nov 30, 2011
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  16. Tommyc

    Tommyc Active Member

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    I um.. what?
    Tommyc, Dec 1, 2011
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    poosh ring into cylinder with the piston so it is square...measure gap
    1 at a time. how else can you check ring gap ?
    just saying i have been fortunate, i have not had to file any rings to size, yet.
    eieio4tn, Dec 1, 2011
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    2nd ring isnt in upside down is it? dot should face up,bevel down.with the teflon V. seals,did you check top collar to seal clearance?if your running any cam at all,its a good chance you smashed the seal.when we install teflon seals on shovels,the guides have to be machined down a fare amount
    prodrag1320, Dec 1, 2011
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    I would think for sure that with pc telflon seals they had to machine the guides!? that would suck ass to do a tear down over not cutting the guides down . I think these heads were all done up for him also !!! He has cam in it tommy likes to haul ass. lol
    baggerpaul, Dec 1, 2011
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    the OD has to be machined,but alot of guys dont realise that the guides also have to machined shorter too,alot shorter,to get the clearance collar to seal,on shovels
    prodrag1320, Dec 1, 2011
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    chrome rings take forever to break in.............just sayin.....
    chucktx, Dec 1, 2011
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