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S&s v111

Discussion in 'Projects' started by Tomflhrci98, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    Looks like an SNS idle mix screw you can see over the top of the backing plate...Running a CV40 on that engine would be like making a race horse breathe through a straw....
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    +1 100%
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    Good analogy :).
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    This V111 package comes with an E carb and the IST ignition is pretty cool. No nose cone cam sensor. It is all done with a crank sensor. No screwin around with timing. I have to get the computer cable to see the timing map and learn maps or whatever it is. I haven't got that far yet.

    Ran it around the neighborhood yesterday. Throttle is real sensitive. Definitely a completely different animal. I'm getting a bit of a carb fart on tip-in and it surprised me when I was in a turn. This torquey motor can pitch the bike when that happens. I gotta be real careful and adjust the carb this weekend. I can't ride it to work yet until I figure it all out.
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    Prob needs a little more accel pump adjustment screw all the way to right and up above idle screw in is less out is more squirt go small turns a little at a time .
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    IST is great had it on my 124, it doubled the engine warranty running it and that was a good thing.
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    Tomflhrci98 Active Member

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    I finally got to ride it for a while today. Put bout 70 miles on it. It runs real nice. I use only about 25% throttle to go anywhere with this thing. Driving it easy until it gets broke in. The ignition is still learning and it does seem to get better and better.

    Cons: Starting this thing is a bitch. When cold it runs so hi that you can't get it into gear and it aint that easy to lower the RPM by pushing on the enricher without stalling. Waiting for it to warm up in the morning at 5:30am isn't going to be an option. One of my neighbors is going to complain. And it is much louder than the EVO.

    Starting when hot is a bitch too. It don't like to very easily.

    Other than that it's a blast. Maybe it'll get better or I'll learn what it likes and doesn't. We'll see eventually what high altitude is going to do too.

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    Paul, I been looking at this since you posted. I have a lot of S&S carb documents from online but I don't see anything mentioned about using the accel pump to adjust the light tip in fart (mostly it's a bit of a hesitation). I don't think it needs to be re jetted and I've played with the mixture screw. I may try the accel pump next after it breaks in some more. Thanks.
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    you have comp releases right?
    whats the cranking compression

    on hot restarts don't touch the throttle
    crank it over with a quick depress and off the starter

    sometimes its the pistons lighting off the fuel and
    it will kick back, adding fuel makes it worse.
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    Watch the sns tunning video . Off the sns website please . Tip in and carb fart are both indications of a lean condition if it takes a long time to warm up she is lean on the low speed jet . Did they not give ya extra low speed jets in the zip lock bag zip tied to the carb in the engine crate? Some times with just adding a little more accel pump squirt you can over come the carb fart . Sometimes you. Have to add slow jet .
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    Here's what I found. I added the 031 that's the largest they gave me (next size up from the 0295 that I took out) and it ran worse. The 36 page document that I downloaded on E and G carbs said that the idle screw should not be more that 1 3/4 turns out or you need a richer jet. I woke up this morning realizing that I had better first find out how many turns it came set from the factory. This engine was supposed to have been adjusted already. The idle screw was 3.5 turns out WTF! So I set it to 1.5 turns and went for a ride. It ran pretty good and I didn't have to adjust idle speed at all. Keep in mind it was 65 degrees all day today. I'll ride it set like this for a while and finish the break in period before I do anything else.

    The idle kind of sucks. It shakes more than the EVO, but there is not much else I can do. They say this engine is smooth but it really isn't. It is definitely different, louder, stronger but all in all it still feels like the EVO. It's just that the difference is like standing next to a small stamping press (EVO) then standing next to a much larger stamping press. It still vibrates but it is a different feeling. Having the extra power though, ya just can't beat it.:D
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    I learned a while back you can't trust the "factory" to make certain settings right. Everything that can be, must be double checked. Sounds like you're close . . .

    Shake, rattle & roll - that's what they do.

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