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School shooting

Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by Fatboy128, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. marc 55

    marc 55 Well-Known Member

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    All weekend all I herd was guns this, guns that and we need more gun laws...What don't these people understand? This was not about guns...There is not any law out there that could have done anything to prevent this...This was about some person that lost it and went out of control...It has happened before and will happen again... It is just a matter of where and when...How many times have we herd about a soldier or ex cop that lost it? We had an incident here in NJ in the Summer when a decorated soldier lost it, went into a store and blew a few people away...They were not children but that is not the point...
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    This is like a Chain email sent to you. Jump on or something may happen to you.
    People are followers, they listen for somebody to tell them what to do and they follow who ever is playing the flute.
    They can't think for themselves.
    Right now they are hearing the president and folks say something needs to be done.
    And we need more laws. If the laws we have now didn't work, How is more laws gonna help anything other than big brother to watch and control you more by taking your rights away.
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    I wish to hell that everybody would put their own agenda aside for a few more days and just think of and /or pray for the children and adults affected by this. I am sure, like my wife who is a first grade teacher, that there are many struggling this morning leaving their children at schools, worriing about what to tell them in the classroom, and just dealing with the awful, evil that has been committed. Hundreds of thousands are dealing with this this morning.
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    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    amen!!!
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    because the leader of this country hates guns
    and he wants to get rid of them, he'll go to the
    stand politicking big time, Oprah, the view, letterman,
    barbara walters, larry king, he'll be on the jet in front of schools
    with kids in the background,

    He is so crass and self absorbed he even pushed
    his agenda at the memorial service, how low life is
    that to push an agenda while memorializing the kids.

    He is the biggest POS out there and he's good at this stuff.

    write your republican congressmen and if you are stuck with a liberal left winger write them as well, they won't vote the way you want but you need to
    put them on record..
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    Yea, BO will try and use this to get his own agenda. Really sad he did that at the memorial service but we know he is a low life anyway so nothing unusual for him. Those people in both CT and OR need time to heal without everyone sticking their nose in and that includes the BO.
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    I'm suppose to play to a different set of rules than the Media or your president Plays to. I understand plainly what they are saying.
    And they got people already building it up.
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    Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Joy Scott — a student killed in the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, and Craig Scott - a survivor of those shootings — made this speech during testimony on May 27, 1999 before the Subcommittee on Crime of the House Judiciary Committee.

    "Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers." "The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field.

    The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart. "In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA.

    I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent."

    "I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy-it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room.

    Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. "I wrote a poem that expresses my feelings best. This was written way before I knew I would be speaking here today:"

    Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
    Your words are empty air.
    You've stripped away our heritage,
    You've outlawed simple prayer.

    Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
    And precious children die.
    You seek for answers everywhere,
    And ask the question "Why?"

    You regulate restrictive laws,
    Through legislative creed.
    And yet you fail to understand,
    That God is what we need!

    "Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, soul, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and reek havoc. Spiritual influences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact.

    What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties.

    We do not need more restrictive laws." Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

    Political posturing and restrictive legislation are not the answers. The young people of our nation hold the key. There is a spiritual awakening taking place that will not be squelched! We do not need more religion. We do not need more gaudy television evangelists spewing out verbal religious garbage. We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people with basic needs are being ignored.

    We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!" "As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, He did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right!

    I challenge every young person in America, and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA- I give to you a sincere challenge.

    Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
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    That was an excellent article Marc. I liked his remark about how the first recorded act of violence was committed by Cain when he murdered his brother Abel with a club. Someone intent on killing will use whatever is readily available--if no gun, than a rock, pipe, screwdriver.....

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