Screaming Eagle Race Tuner

It's a big bonus IF you have a bike with the exhaust sniffers.

The TM does have self tune but you still have to input a base map with what your motor has - air breather,mufflers,cams and sensor inputs. Any changes down the line require a new map and self tuning. Both units require some basic comp skills when ever you do make any changes to the motor - intake or exhaust.

And mucho denero.

The SERT is a lot cheaper than the TMax.

I think that I would take the SERT. Not just because of the price, but it sounds like the TM is a lot more complicated than what it should be to tune your bike.


Hey Blue Pearl, did you get your bike in to get it tuned???

Weather hasn't co-operated and neither has work - 2nd nite in a row called into Fords at 2 am for emergency jobs! Supposed to be near 60 wed and sunny hope to get it over in am!

That sucks. I was looking forward to hearing about how that went. Let me know when you got it done??

You can't tune a bike with a SE race tuner without it in a dyno machine.
It don't maintain the same air fuel ratio across the board or the same timing.
The bike needs to be under a load.
The cells change every 256 rpm from Idle to WOT.
Talked to many dyno people about this and they have explained it to me.
You can mearly play with a little of it.
Why buy a expensive motorcycle to take changes to burn the motor up.
Dyno it or git a thundermax with auto tune.

This ain't a game

How does this compare with the SERT for price?? This was sold by HD under the SERT name.

TTS - MasterTune EFI Programming Software

Its a upgraded SERT. You really need somebody that is a hell of a tuner to tune with this product.
Got a buddy that bought two of them, he had his bikes dynoed 4 times and it still didn't run great and gave him several Problems, He took it off his 07 Heritage and put his Thunder-Max back on it and lost the problems.

Look at how much the TTS mastertune is gonna cost. Now figure in the dyno time. And you can't make any farther changes to the bike without more dyno time needed,
Now tell me how much you have in the TTS,

Both several of my buddies and me has taken these roads over the last 5 yrs.
Only to come back to the Tuner we have now.

Same Same here. I've had a couple of fuel injected bikes all with mods done to the motors. All these motors were far away from stock, Ive used both the sert and the power commander. had problems with the not running right with all of them. And as far as dyno time was way up there. along with the crap for gas we are forced to run is just one more nail in the coffin. How long has TM been around, seen a lot of these company's come and go. So TM is a one time set up and it's a done deal?

Electronic Fuel Injection (EFI) and Performance Parts for Harley Davidson and VTwin Motorcycles

Trying to find a good dyno guy is dang hard. And if you make much changes to yer bike, you need his services again.

Because a lot of us starts with a high flow air kit and mufflers, we need out bike to be setup so it don't run hot.
Then we might do a cam, another change. Then we might do pistons and heads, now we need to do it again.
A lot of us has to do the motor in stages. We don't have all the money that everybody does that can walk in and pay cash for a bike.
So in out best Interest there is nothin like the Thunder-Max.

We got a shop here that used to be real big on Power Commanders.
They have factory trained Tech's too.
A buddy of mine had his last bike done there cause he is friends with the owner.
Well now they have finally found their way to the Thunder-Max tuners and are much more pleased with them. And they have a dyno man.

My buddy got a 2011 RG, now he's workin on gittin bungs put in so he can do a Thunder-Max

JIM'S CYCLE SHOP

LIke I said people does everything in stages. They don't have the money to do everything at once.

And what you have up there ain't gonna help everybody else man
The rest of the U.S. is a big place