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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by cowboy, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Well they would usually set em to lean trying to get the max power out of them but then the motor would run to hot. Don't know, but they may be going to far the other way. Its going back to them on Tuesday, plus the oil pressure gauge is running at 60. Could be the gauge or sending unit.
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    Rev Performance just released it's new Delphi tuner
    and it works with TBW and cables, it's got a self learning
    system, you replace the existing narrow band switching sensors
    with new wide bands,

    Rev Performance sets up a base map, you
    send your ECM to them, they mail it back
    and they enable the wide band code in the ECM
    or at least access to it.

    Install, put on the module and ride.

    Lots of folks on other sites reporting
    major improvement right away, idle and
    throttle quality.

    You can still get to the ECM via TTS or SERT

    JMO this is the way of
    the future in this market

    Plug n play
    similar to Zippers Tmax
    however you keep your ECM
    in the bike, and if you sell the
    bike or need to it can be reprogrammed back
    to stock...

    Some good reports from a few people on other sites

    Link to Product

    You will get two wide band O2 sensors and
    an add-on module that allows the wide bands
    to be calibrated and connected to the ECM

    Your ECM must be sent to them for modifications
    to allow the Rev Perf to hook up to the ECM tuner.

    Click here for install Video

    Looks like a simple install and they basically load
    a base map, then the bike uses wide band sensors
    to monitor and report.

    Not much other detail yet, not sure how you can set
    Idle, speedo settings, timing etc...
    However here is a link to some FAQ's
  3. cowboy

    cowboy Moderator Staff Member

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    well I have to agree it is the way of the future , It's just not here yet , Those are some good links to read Thank's HRK they will come in handy :cool:
  4. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Hotroadking, is that a piggy back system or is it like the Race Tuner where it changes the system internally.
  5. HarleysLR

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    you forgot to mention and cost ya money
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    Drove down 190 before you git to 3126 and had it welded.
    Gee you never drive 25 miles go Cleveland , or Liberty to git paint and sand paper or wire and carbon dioxide for yer shop.
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    Got the Thundermax on and cranked the bike.
    It ran good at Idle took it out on about a 80 mile ride.
    He said it was runnin better than the PCV did and it was gettin better fuel milage.

    Another happy camper.:cool:
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    There ya go...a nickle short of $800 for a Rev Performance same or a little more for a Tmax...that's a lot of extra money just to tune an EFI bike plus the cost of the breather pipes and cam...adds up pretty quick....with a carbed bike, it's a couple of bux for a few jets or a few more for a CV performance kit and if you get more than a bolt in cam you can get a new ignition module for around $250....so to equip a carbed bike to handle any upgrades you may want you'd spend less than $350 for an ignition and jet kit,then set it and forget it and crack the Jack..
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Only way to properly tune a carbed bike to git it tuned as good as a EFI is to quit guessing and listening to it by ear and put it on a dyno.
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    sort of agree there cb. if you going all out racing, yes.... you HAVE to dyno an efi because you risk the chance of hurting the bike because you dont know what is going on. you take a chance of hurting it, by riding it to the dyno.
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    With a Thundermax you don't have to dyno it. It tunes itself.
    That's what you keep over lookin.

    Don't you remember back in the 70's when they had carbureators, and the shops around town that had a dyno to properly tune yer car.

    They didn't do it just for race. They did it for performance and fuel milage, and to make the motor run at optiminum performance.
  17. chucktx

    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    you dont need a dyno to properly tune a carburetor. exhaust temps will give you all the info you need. if the temps are the same for each cylinder, you cant get it any better, because they are all working the same.
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    cowboy Moderator Staff Member

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    lucifer hit right on the head , I don't have the $800 to A $1000 to throw at my bike again your not getting the point CB ,yes I know if set up right the EFI works good ,I have riden to Alb NM from down here both on a carb bike & on A EFI bike both ran real good ,But I got better MPG with the carb bike then with my EFI bike & by quite a bit 45 avg on the carb & 38 on my EFI & by all counts the efi should have been better cause it's newer & a 5 spd trans where the carb bike was a 73 shovel & 4 spd trans , both bike's about the same in weight when loaded down
    So $800 tuner
    $100 for new pipes
    $200-$300 for dyno or setting the tuner up
    So a bit over $1000 for a tune up
    setting up a carb is less the half of that I get avg 38 mpg on my bike My bro-in-law with his 95in se 203 cams gets avg 45 mpg & he hit's the throttle harder then I do
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    Don't have to dyno a TM redneck......

    No two bikes are gonna have the same hp or fuel milage from a build. Close mabe if yer thowing horseshoes......
    If i ride right , I'm my gas to empty says I have about 225 miles on a tank.
    I can't ride it normal ohj.
    Just seen a gray Ford LTD that has a state trooper had somebody in downtown livingston pulled over.
    Lights inside the car.
    No markins on the outside of the car what so ever.:gah:
  20. FLHTbiker

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    I to agree with the carb being easier to set up.

    CB, those state cops still using the old Ford LTD's up here there using unmarked Ford Mustang and Dodge Chargers.

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