Super tuner or race tuner

You mean like this Amazon.com: Korg TM-40 Large Display Digital Tuner and Metronome: Musical Instruments. :roflmao::roflmao:

They can tell you anything you want, but that
won't make it true, federal law prohibits them from
voiding the warranty for using 3rd party parts
unless the part can be proven to cause the damage.

So if the trans seals start leaking, or the primary is leaking
or the radio won't work,, or your seat tears on a seam,
the T-MAx couldn't have caused that, nor could the
Vance and Hines Slip ons, or the K&N air filter, or the
Kuryakyn grips, or the windvest windshield...

However if the Efi system takes a dump, injectors
burn up, and you have a Tmax they could say it caused
it and you'd have to prove it didn't...

I have seen dealers do that. Even hear at the big HD dealer a HD warranty guy was in and a bike was in for some engine warranty work. He found out that non-HD cams and a non-approved HD tuner was used and he, not the dealer canceled the guys warranty right on the spot. Didn't even want to know if any of those items caused the engine failure. I think if your under warranty you better keep it HD or it could bit you. If your warranty is over than go for it. JMHO

Dealer can refuse to do warranty work but the dealer CANNOT void the factory warranty only the FACTORY can void the warranty. He should simply asked for the zone rep and it depends on what was wrong,

However the dealer will call the factory and advise them that the engine has issues and has non-HD parts however the parts themselves don't void it, he does have to prove the parts, or the improper install of the parts caused the damage.

Example, you put in SNS cams, and HD timesaver pushrods with HD gasket kit, and drop in either a SERT or TTS, and the rocker boxes start leaking... Unless you removed them, (and putting in timesavers indicates you shouldn't) then the leak should be fixed under warranty. No way a cam install causes a rocker box to leak unless you removed the boxes.


Again, people use the term "void the warranty' which is wrong, they don't VOID the entire warranty they just refuse to fix the problem under the warranty contract, you still have warranty coverage on the bike on everything else unless the factory sends you notice that doing so voided the warranty, like putting a 120R in, bam doing this act voids the warranty... and it's an HD part...

If the warranty bugs you don't do anything as was stated, or, go to your dealer and talk with a good SM and see what they say, if the writes and SM say, oh yeah you use any non hd stuff and it voids the warranty and you haven't bought the bike, go back to the sales guy and tell them, no sale, and why, that you don't deal with Service departments that "threaten warranty coverage voided"

Buy elsewhere, plenty of SM will let you do a lot without
being a PIA, but know that if you put in a bunch of aftermarket
parts and tune the bike with someones tuner, even HD's tuner
they may not honor the warranty for engine repair.

Well HRK, there doing it. A factory warranty guy was the one who I witnessed do it to the guys bike. We were all very shocked. I just had my bike tuned and they said putting on a TTS or other device could void my warranty so I went with the HD Tuner. I dont want any grey areas with another brand tuner even if it is better. My friend Maddog had a really good tune done to his bike by Mike Stegman ( a top tuner in this country) at the HD dealer here so I simply had them down load the same tune into my bike. Our bikes are almost identical in what we have done. The tune works excellent made a huge difference. No warranty issues with a SE Tuner as long as the HD dealership did the work. Plus if I'm on the road and something happens any HD dealer can use the tuner. I know several of you don't like the HD tuner and your tuners are better but it works for me and I'm very pleased with the results.

You said earlier that when you go into a HD dealer you take it off, OK how do you do that then?

Nothing wrong with the SERT from HD, in fact it was programmed by TTS Mastertune for HD for the longest time, they switched vendors as HD is apt to do so for a while the TTS and SERT were the exact same thing.

If your dealer says he won't bitch about the SERT and your warranty then that's what you do, mine knows I have a TTS and he knows me and is fine with it, like I said, it's who you deal with I've known this guy for 15 years.

Now if he doesn't know you it might be different LOL

Relationships it's all about them..