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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by more power, Apr 16, 2011.

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  1. ultra200922

    ultra200922 Active Member

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    I run a SERT on my 09 103 BB with no complaints.:D
    ultra200922, Apr 18, 2011
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  3. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Can you fine tune those? Do you really have to dyno it every time you change the program??
    JohnnyBiker, Apr 18, 2011
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  4. ultra200922

    ultra200922 Active Member

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    You can hook up to a laptop and make changes or have changes made while on the dyno, I did motor and exhaust work and then had it tuned on a dyno 1 time and am very happy and don't plan on doing alot of other mods.
    ultra200922, Apr 18, 2011
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  5. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    So it would be better to do all of you mods at the same time then? That dyno time is not cheep is it. :banghead:
    JohnnyBiker, Apr 18, 2011
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  6. ultra200922

    ultra200922 Active Member

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    Yes the most economical would be to have engine and exhaust mods done then tune it once and enjoy, but it is hard to stop there. I believe dyno time was $75 an hour.
    ultra200922, Apr 18, 2011
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  7. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    what part of Wisconsin are you in?
    JohnnyBiker, Apr 18, 2011
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  8. ultra200922

    ultra200922 Active Member

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    North central between Wausau and Eau Claire the area in the 3-6" snow storm tomorrow.:witsend:
    ultra200922, Apr 18, 2011
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  9. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    I have passed through Eau Claire many times. Have you ever been to Hals HD in New Berlin Wisconsin? That is a really nice dealership.
    JohnnyBiker, Apr 18, 2011
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  10. ultra200922

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    Yes many times and will be going again in May when we go to a concert in Milwaukee.
    ultra200922, Apr 18, 2011
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    When a bike is properly tuned it is tuned in every cell from idle to WOT
    So that is every 256rpm

    The TM can tune all of those cells
    All tuners don't tune at every 256rpms
    cardboard, Apr 18, 2011
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  12. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    I like to look at their bikes online because they have such a great variety. When i was in there I almost walked out with a custom bike. They wanted just a tad too much.
    JohnnyBiker, Apr 18, 2011
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  13. more power

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    Belive it or not I've been hearing god things about the Power Commander five. (I've never had much luck with the power commander the maps don't get it done like they say) Then there's the Vans and Hines fuel pack. I had somebody pushing off on me.
    more power, Apr 21, 2011
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  14. hotroadking

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    None of those "auto tuners" tune every cell
    to get the majority of cells you need a load
    on the bike and the only way to do it is on a
    dyno.

    TTS and Tmax fill up the cells where you ride
    not cells where you don't gather data.

    For example, if you never hit 7% throttle at 2500 RPM
    ever, then it will never tune the cell, or modify the original
    cell settings.

    Now that cell will use the default numbers, and even if you
    can hit the cell you have to have sufficient data
    over time on the cell to get any meaningful data
    to make a change.

    This doesn't mean the number in that cell is
    correct or incorrect, it just means you don't ride there
    ever. So there is a tune, it's just not "tuned"

    Make sense?

    What they now do in some cases is take your recorded
    data and "estimate" other cells based on the data recorded.

    Like setting the cell at 0% throttle at 6000 RPM

    I want to see someone hit that cell, on the dyno, or on the street tmax, tts, pcv, etc....


    As to your SERT

    Yes you can tune the SERT, you hook up the cable to your
    laptop and the SERT dongle (key box) to the bike.

    Go ride and record data and then
    you can make changes to cells based
    on the data recorded

    Generally you set the cell up for the bike
    then the AFR is input
    then you can play with timing.

    You'll get 90 to 95% of what you need or more
    over some time.

    About 3 runs will get you to cover the cells
    the way you normally ride.
    hotroadking, Apr 21, 2011
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