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Discussion in 'EFI Maps and Tuners' started by cardboard, Sep 8, 2013.

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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    The new software for Thunder-Max has a trouble shooting section in it, looks great .
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    Hi CB, is this the same as the TMax Auto-Support feature they introduced to dealers in February at the Cincy dealer show? If so maybe they were slow to push it out.
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    You download the TM software to your computer.
    Setup yer bike and run it, after you run it, it stores learned Data.
    In the software you run the auto support feature with the bike hooked up to yer computer.
    Thunder-Max makes a lot of the rally's too. I like to go see them there,

    - Video Tube for YouTube - iPhone/iPad

    There area lot of TM videos on YouTube too.
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    I purchased a thunderMax and am completely CLUELESS AS TO HOW TO USE IT .I have an 08 ultra with 551 cams K&N filter and V&H true duals and it doesn't seem to be running all that good around 35mpg . any helpwould be appreciated I went with the mechs suggestion after an SERT and don't seem to notice much other than it running a little cooler
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    This is probably a good example of where the AutoSupport feature will be helpful. Check out the video posted above by Cardboard, it describes the process. ThunderMax has very good support and they could look at the data downloaded through the support feature and help you diagnose this. The feature can email the information to them which is a lot easier than manually downloading logs and trying to decipher them or relay them to a support person.


    Thanks for posting CB, I had wondered if the update required a firmware update but it appears it only needs the latest software (free) loaded to your computer.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    It come with instructions. Read them many times and watch videos on how to install he 02 sensors . DO NOT get anything n he sensors. Be very careful with them.

    Is the TM installed ?


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    You need to make sure you keep your software updated. And after you hookup to the bike you have to make sure you click on the link button it if on't automatically do it.
    You have to go into maps & choose a map for yer size motor, matching the cam is the most important. Then I would try to find a 2in1 pipe.
    Make sure yer speedo calibration settings are right. See the instructions .
    Then write the map.
    After writing the Map go to settings and firmware and click on update firmware and make sure you have a motorcycle battery charger hooded up to yer bike.
    Then update your firmware, you may need to use the stop watch in yer phone for the installations.
    After you have everything installed.
    Do the initalization per he instructions.

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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Set you idle at 1040

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    Duals are not good pipes for performance.

    I would not put them on a bike.

    I would put supertrapp supermeg on that has 18mm bungs

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    If you want louder pipes I would look at these.

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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow. I thought CB said it was easy just plug in and ride lol

    This is why I prefer the TTS. No hardware no sensors none if the work or expenses.

    Plug in play.




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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    It is after you install it, update the map software, firmware and do. Initalization .
    Then all you do ride the bike.

    If you know nothing about the TTS. What good is it.
    What kind of tech support ?
    Sell yer bike, where is it at ?
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    TTS is simple, hook up cable, open laptop,
    auto prompt loads your stock program into
    memory so you always have it to put back in for warranty.

    Select Map, hit update, done.

    Ride bike.

    No tools needed, support is good, they have tech line
    top programmer Steve helps even do the dyno for the base maps

    if you want to auto tune hook up laptop, and go ride,
    it auto reads all the real time ECM data, populates any changes
    to the map,

    Only part you take off is the side cover
    over the data port. No tools needed.
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    I've used both, and like both. Currently running ThunderMax TBW on my 08 Street Glide and no complaints.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh yeah they work, all of them do some just take a different approach

    Folks should know the basic types so they can make an informed
    decision on what fits them, their style and budget... JMO
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Buy a 20,000 motorcycle and buy a cheaper tuner.
    Don't understand.
    Most of the folks can't tune with the TTS.
    Have a friend that has had TTS on his bikes and had them dynoed.
    He has a TM on his 110cu.

    The big tuner that a lot of folks are going to that is cheaper is the Power Vison.
    Its a Flash tuner.
    But where it tunes like 450 points, the TM tunes 2500 points.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    TTS isn't cheap, it's just not as expensive as the Tmax

    Both are good but both have different approaches to
    achieve the end result desired...
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Ya need to know somebody that can tune with one.
    And it marries to yer bike.
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    I like my SE Tuner, works perfect, good power, great fuel mileage and don't have to keep messing with it. I like to just ride it. Yes, I had it tuned on a dyno, simply has great performance.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Yer tied yo the dealer

    What is it you think I need to go to my TM
    Fuelmoto sent me a Dynoed map
    Loaded it in my bike
    Changed the idle rpm
    It goes from there
    Runs great
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    Is that why yours is running so great with only 35 MPG. come on man mine was done 2 years ago and still running great get 44-48 MPG. Your tied to Tmax and Fuelmoto for maps. You need to take it and put it on a Dyno and get it tuned properly.

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