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Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by JohnnyBiker, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    shhhh lucifer... he doesn't want ta hear that logic stuff... LOL

    That is what we've been saying, either cam he's going to have
    to go 95 CUI, head work, raise compression, and increase flow...
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    :roflmao::roflmao:eek:h yeah...I forgot:D:roflmao:
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    Duh. Completely planning on all that is mentioned if it gets to that point. DTT ignition is a good idea anyways. Talked to Kirby awhile ago so I trust what he has suggested. I am sitting on the cams until I do headwork and CI increase. If i don't do it, i will sell them. :D

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    Great CAm
    Buddy has one in his 01 EG .

    Good Hp and dyno chart.
    Couldn't ask for any better results.
    That should pull like a freight train all way threw.:D

    That would be more motor than Little Johnny would know what to do with........
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    OK, so you're planning on head work and a compression increase to go with the 98" bore kit...I have no doubt what so ever Kirby will give you a great performing package.....and not saying that that work is expensive,but I thought you were just looking for an inexpensive way to increase your bottom end torque so you can pull out and pass without downshifting and that can be done with the big bore an.030HG, stock heads(altho you can never go wrong with a good valve job) and a cam with an early closing intake...I did mine and came in under $900.00 and that included a set of '06 casting stock heads,which I bought to save me from messing around with a broken off exhaust stud and no down time...:D

    Now if I can only get the damn wheels on the ground for any length of time,I'll let you know what I think of it...;)
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    Yes, still looking for the cheapest "satisffactory" fix. Not scared to go further if i need to. The ignition is just a good buy anyways. I am going in steps and not really buying anything that I don't need, just as I need.:thumbup:

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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    The 557 ain't gonna give him what a 6h is either.
    aND THE key ain't gonna make it run better.
    Git over the key
    Buy he has a mental lock against Woods.........:roflmao:
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    not many cams do what the 6H does in a vee twin
    it's woods homage to the old high lift short duration cams of
    the old drag racers,

    One day o'l Johnny will wake up and smell the rubber burning
    when he starts working on TQ and forgets about HP

    It's a big fat heavy black 980 pound cruiser and it's
    not a little yeller 400 pound sporty.

    Big ol honkin cruisers loooove tq, why they'll
    pull front wheels in the air, crank off down the road
    and pull two up, loaded up a hill and never wheeze

    All he's gotta do is remember the torque.
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    Huh !
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    So Kirby gave me bad combination advice?:confused:

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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    I will never put a Woods product on my bike. Not if I can help it anyways. :D

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    intake close of less than 38 lots of bottom . 38 to 50 mid to high . but good if you run 10.25.1 and up .
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    NO it's not bad advice, it's a decent cam
    as long as you do it all together, it's got to
    be a package of things, just tossing parts
    at it won't work.
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    HRK, trust me, when it gets and if it gets to the point that I am going to do the 98" kit, everything will be done at the same time. I have talked to Kirby and we have already basically built the engine. I will be doing a set of heads from him, jugs, and of course the RS cams that I bought from him. A DTT Ignition, which I will be getting here shortly. There has just been small things for the upgrade that I haven't decided on. things like, do I want to change the cam plate etc...
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    JB if cost is a factor...why replace perfectly good working parts,if you're not having oil pressure or flow problems and you're not blowing oil out of the breathers(not sumping)....leave the cam plate and oil pump alone...

    These bikes really like 3000 RPM's so if you're putting along at 2500 RPM's @60MPH and want to pass,drop it down a gear...if I'm in traffic doing 60MPH I'm usually in 4th anyway(3000RPM's),but with the TW21 I can roll on from 2500 in 5th and not really going to pass anyone putting along @60
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    yep the shift lever is your friend...

    Big big bigger RPM, I usually run around on
    the cam at 3K, bikes a lot more responsive
    than lugging it along at 2400
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    Money is usually never an issue for me. We had this discussion before, just asking if I should upgrade it or not, most likely I won't but it has come up in conversation. I remember a guy named Smarty highly recommended that I change out the plate while I am in there and everyone just jumped on him, he even recommended a Baisley spring for more pressure and people jumped all over his shiit for it. Just thinking out loud I guess.

    Here is the main question...Were you having those issues with your CHFH when you changed things around? If not, why did you screw with it??? Why is it OK that you guys change your stuff but when JohnnyBiker wants to change his stuff it is a crime?? Just asking?????:confused::confused:
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    i went with gear drives did not change the pump . it makes 6 psi idle hot and 35 going down the road . 60 psi cold at about 2000 rpm did not go with the baisley spring lifters are jhonsons dont have any problems . if the 575 are gear drives then the upgraded plate is useless any ways cause your not useing the hydro tensioners any how you would be blocking them off . just to utilize the dual scavange style pump ?
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    Again my Homie, these things came up before and i was just using them as examples. I have decided against both the upgraded plate and pump. Like you said a long time ago, and I am taking your advice amongst others who contributed, it seems like I would be just throwing money out the window.

    The cams are .557 gear drives, so you are on point.. :D
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    Hey BP, your oil pressure is about the same as mine, so I trust what I have then. I may however just buy a new OEM pump just for piece of mind...

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