Unfair NYC Exhaust Law Change/Please Help

i'd move:devil:

Moving is definitely understandable, but a sad solution. On the way to becoming an environmentally intelligent country, mistakes are sometimes made by well intentioned but uninformed people on both sides of these kinds of issues. To me, it's reasonable to ask that straight pipes be adjusted to a level that isn't heard a mile away, but to require I change my exhaust because it doesn't have an EPA stamp and not create a way for me to get one is against basic American principles and sounds way too much like a Communist Russian way of doing things.

*thanks for the signatures guys, every one helps.

I left NY 12 years ago with no intention of ever going back!!!

Quoting FLHT Biker, "If a unfair law like that does get passed it could spread all across the country so stopping it in its tracks now is the best solution."

My point exactly! Soon counties will have a no motorcycle law, much like ones that have no alcohol.

would you live with someone who you know would love to steal your bike? that danm state most be run by a batch of horse theifs. a long standing rule is you have a problem with someone never even consider doin anything to their bike, burn their mother out but never the mans bike

You're right Skull2007. Most of the crooks who created the environment for the financial collapses of late are from right here. So now, they'll create archaic rules and crippling fines just to cover their ass and get back at those no good bikers who make all that noise.

Back when I was an independent "owner/operator" we used to call it "Filthadelphia". And we voted with our wallets - new tax on semis? OK, we just won't deliver or pick up loads there, or even drive thru your State. Been so long I don't remember the details, but some proposed legislation wasn't passed because enough drivers said we just won't go there anymore. After all, more regulation/taxes is about revenue collection, not making the city or State safer.

were back to the modern problems that plauge us nobody wants to help any one else, associate with anyone else, stand up for anyone else, or take risk.
and everyone is sure to point fingers place blame, and step on the downed man to get the last icecream cone, that goes for unions alike they aren't unions anymore they are money making machines for execs, tell me i'm wrong,
as for laws most are made by the minority, like the pipe law in denver probably some SOB's wife/gf rode off in to the sunset on a rumbling harley cause she uhm like the feeling of freedom. If some pansyass feels remotely intemidated by something, bikers, guns, truckers, cowboys, lowriders, etc. because of their lack of a spine to confront you, your going to see a law about it somewhere. the majority however has done nothing to fin off these pains in the rectal area, why, we have jobs, we have hobbies, we are busy, it doesn't concern us, sucks to live in NY, where last year it was sucks to live in DEN, thats the neighbors problem, basicly we are relying on the other guy to step up cause whats in it for me, and I havn't got the time to standup and help but I sure have the time to bitch about it.
maybe i woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning :gah:

Maybe you did, but you also happen to be right.

signed in

1315 and more will kick in.

1342 and proud to help. Thump

Thanks guys. The City Council office has been closed for "the holidays", even on days when most of us were working. I'll call on Monday, but I've got a suspicion the fix is in and it has already been decided.

I'm 2534

Good luck getting the legislation rejected.

Well, it seems that the legislation has been back burnered for the moment, but I think they'll sneak it in somewhere real soon. Republican representative Peter Vallone from Staten Island, NY says "your argument is falling on deaf ears" when someone mentioned the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" saying. That's not gonna float here, so we better find a more effective argument. Common sense is there's no rational reason to require EVERYONE to have pipes with an EPA stamp imbedded in it, with no way to get one imbedded, other than buy new pipes, but common sense doesn't always prevail. Thanks for the responses guys.