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Unfair NYC Exhaust Law Change/Please Help

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by HellBoy, Dec 24, 2008.

  1. HellBoy

    HellBoy New Member

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    It stops when enough people make it stop. Unfortunately, most of us are busy making a living and have little spare time to use toward this sort of harassment. I guess the right lawyer could be effective,
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    Number 2770 Hellboy. Lots of luck on your crusade!
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    Man, you guys are really great. Thanks so much for taking the time to add your voices to this issue. Happy New Year to all.
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    Number 3109...
  5. HellBoy

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    Just got this letter from the head of the city council, but pleaser keep signing the petition.

    *Names might be changed to protect the not so innocent..

    February 2, 2009
    Dear Mr. Hellboy,

    Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and views about Proposed Int. No. 416-A.

    I know a lot of folks are concerned that this bill unfairly targets motorcyclists and could result in the widespread seizure and forfeiture of people's bikes.

    Now, this is certainly not something I would support, nor do I believe it's the intent of this legislation.

    Proposed Int. No. 416-A, sponsored by Council Member Gerson, is aimed specifically at reducing the level of noise in our City by prohibiting the parking, standing, or stopping of motorcycles equipped with straight pipes. Current laws aimed at such motorcycles require the noise to be heard before the police can actually act. However, it's difficult and often dangerous for police officers to pull over moving motorcycles, so these types of vehicles are rarely ticketed. Proposed Int. No. 416-A would help ensure public health and safety by allowing a police officer to examine a parked motorcycle's muffler to determine whether it falls under the definition of "straight pipe" provided in the bill.

    On December 14, 2006, the Council's Public Safety Committee, chaired by Council Member Peter Vallone, Jr., held a hearing to discuss the proposed bill. After this hearing, the bill was revised. A second hearing on the amended bill was held on December 10, 2008.

    Since then Council Members have continued to meet with concerned citizens in order to discuss the proposed legislation. Efforts are currently being made to address some of the concerns raised about the proposed law, and to help make sure that it only meets its stated intent.

    As always, the health and quality of life of all New Yorkers must be our first priority when weighing this or any other legislation that may impact public safety. Please be assured that as we continue to review this legislation and discuss changes, balancing the need to regulate noise in the city with the interests of the motorcycle community, the comments and concerns of all interested stakeholders will be taken into careful consideration.

    Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and views on this important matter with me. I will be sure to keep you updated on any new developments with this bill as they occur.

    Sincerely,
    Christine C. Quinn
    Speaker
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    Thump '63 New Member

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    So we go back to the "Billy Club" baffle check, or hand held decible meters that are never certified? At least he gave you a nice hand job.
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    When they start using terms like Safety, Health and quality of life they win. As a home inspector when I find a problem and use any of those terms in my report the sellers and Realtors have a hard time fighting it.
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    I don't have issues with them not wanting straight pipes, just they were going way overboard with the rest of the proposal. If they keep it to straight pipes, I could live with that. I''d prefer they leave us all alone and that those with straight pipes simply respect city dwellers by not rapping the pipes unnecessarily, but will that happen, I doubt it. All is takes is one jerk hitting the throttle hard down a quiet city street at 2am to get these people going.

    The legislation is really about not liking those noisy dirty bikers. Their position is that Triumphs, Hondas, Ducati, Yamaha, etc. riders all get along without heavy pipe noise, so why should anyone else be allowed to disturb their peace.

    I think government can do great things to help all Americans, but I just don't want them up my a**.
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    Many of those foreign sport bikes have exhaust pipes on them that sound worse than anything out there and are extremely loud.
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    I know what you mean. Some of those rice burners sound like lawn mowers on steroids. I was speaking generally. I have friends with Triumphs that sound great, but aren't excessive, B&W's which are smooth, Ducati's that can be heard, but not ten blocks away, you get my drift. It may even be the racer boys going wild in the streets that are prompting this proposal, I don't know. Fact is, most Harley riders are mature riders, and they're not acting stupid when riding.

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