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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Buy, Sell, Trade or Wanted' started by JohnnyBiker, Dec 7, 2011.

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    When you tend to build a Radical bike, most of the time you have to feel the power.
    Can't just git on it and ride, it ain't the adrenline rush.
    I've been there runnin the homemade hell out of it everywhere I went.
    Even my Bass Boats. Everybody used to say, Cardboard has two speeds. Sittin still and WOT.

    Wonder I didn't kill my Ol or myself.
    Know I scared the heck out of her doing 140 on the WG I had.
    I can remember, when I bent over she bent over when we went fast.

    Glad I flnally smelt things and got used to just puttin around and enjoyin the bike and life in general.
    Hot rods cost money to build and keep up.
    The frames on the older bikes ain't made for that much hp, nor is the tranny or clutch or anything else on the bike.

    If the bike will run 75 down the interstate, it runs fast enough.
    Just git out and enjoy it.
    Nobody notises you when you blast by doin a hundred but the Police.
    Then they tow yer bike and you go to JAIL.

    Hot Rods are for the Race Track.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    All depends. Had my hot rods and my stockers. None of mine have stayed stock for long.


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    I can't leave any thing stock I think if I had a prius it would not be stock. Lol
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    Yer new bike, have you gone into the motor yet?
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    Not yet but k&n filter plus fullsac no cat header and 1.75 inch baffles plus custom ECM tune





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    Thanks for the information Lucifer. I was doing some searching last night about the basic parameters of what bike was stock with. (power) According to the link, my bike had only 5 ft lbs of torque less than what I have now with an Andrews 37G in it. I know that HRK had said that the 37G was best suited for a 95" but that is still ridiculous.:banghead: The one thing that I did like when I looked at the stock specs is that I really liked when the torque peaked. Of course this is according to this web site. Now I am even more motivated to change this and get some actual power out of it.

    http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2001models/2001models-Harley-Davidson-FLTR-FLTRIRoadGlide.htm

    If you are interested, take a look at the dyno charts for the Glide. WOW!!!
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    A 37 andrews cams comes on later giving you more power from like 2600 up.

    If you wanted your bike's power to come on stronger faster I would look at a TW6 Woods cam.
    It comes on at around 1800 rpm and pulls to 5200 or so rpm

    The TW6 is for a heavier bike.
    The TW37 is for a lighter bike.

    And neither cam is a EPA cam.
    If you replace the cam, make sure you use Bob Woods directional lifters or Fueling Race lifters
    And some fueling race push rods. And replace the bearings in the cam chest.
    I'd rather have the cam chain conversion. It has a much better oil pump that comes with it.
    Bob has a good cam chain conversion cam plate too.
    Its much easier to do than the gear drive for me.
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    Woods cams are good for better torque range. In mine I stuck with the Harley 255 cams because the bike is still under warranty, otherwise I would have gone with the Woods.
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    if ya like noise of a fast ramping cam i would by woods! if ya want quite stick with se 255
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    im not a woods fan at all . they make good power for sure but my harley makes enough noise dont need any more help from the valve train . and they beat the **** out of the valve train. they ramp hard and slam the valve down on the seat .
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Like I said I have the Harley warranty and the extended warranty, so I went with the HD 255 cams. Besides I don't think Harley engineers are stupid and the SE cams are pretty good, don't have a problem with em.

    Some people really like the Woods cams and swear by em.
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    trust me they do make great power . and he has a great rep and product . i like a quiet valve train is all . as quiet as you can get lol in a harley when it is hot . lol
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    Paul move north the oil stays thicker longer :D
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    ya then we would have a garage full of bikes torn down all the time. and tweaking . them and driking beer .:D
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    Beer is good:D
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    The Woods roller lifters will eliminate a lot of the noise you are talkin about.
    And you don't run out of power as fast with the woods cams like you do the SE 255 cams.

    If Woods cams are so bad, wonder why T Man performance copied a cam so close to Bob's

    You are building the motor to run better. If you want Quiet stay stock that's why HD put the EPA parts in it so they don't have to listen to folks cry about my bike makes too much noise.
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    Buncha advice there JB, remember you get what ya pay for with advice :p

    I like woods but JMO you'd be a fool to part with $500 for a set of tw-6 cams in your current build. You'd make no more power than you do now and they are not coming on at 1800 RPM in any build more like 2300 to 2500. Yes I have installed them, point being, take the money, do the heads, make sure the quench is spot on, get a bigger carb and intake and an ignition, the cam change would do little but to lighten you wallet.

    If anything advance the cams 4 degrees if you want the 37B's to come on a bit sooner, better investment in heads, intake and carb...

    Heres a decent 37B, mild build,

    06 WFOLarry ported TC heads, stock valves and springs (and quench grooves)
    95" SE flat tops
    82cc head chamber and .030" cometic head gasket
    Andrews TW37b cams
    44CV carb running 46 pilot (3 turns out), 195 main, spring supplied by Larry and N8EL lean needle
    Zippers filter upgrade on SE backplate
    SE6200 performance ignition
    Cycle Shack slip-ons on factory head pipe
    8.9:1 dynamic (corrected) and 9.6:1 static compression

    Bike gets 44+ MPG on highway

    106 Tq from a 95....

    Oh forgot those 37B's can't make power... :D

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    Wow, that fuel line is beautiful from about 4k on.....
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    looks damn good to me!
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    How often do you ride at 4000 rpm ?

    When I'm doing 70 I'm around 2200 rpm.

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